Marc Thoday

Minutes of the meeting of Aylesbury and District Football League Committee held at 7.30p.m. on Wednesday 1 May 2024 at Aylesbury Vale Dynamos Ground

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Present: P Rice, Mrs M Harrison, K Saw, A Skeggs, R Small, Mrs M Stevens, M Thoday.

Apologies were received from K Dunnings M Griffin, A Morgan, N Sabatini

The Minutes: of the meeting of 3 April 2024 were agreed

Matters Arising:

Jon Wood of Berks and Bucks FA attended our meeting and gave us an update on their meetings with Buckinghamshire Council. They are aware of the state of the Council pitches and changing facilities, also the cost of hiring the pitches. No decisions have yet been made, but now Berks and Bucks FA are actually doing something we are hopeful they will pursue our cause. Jon asked how many teams would want to use Council football grounds if the quality of the pitches and changing facilities were improved, and the cost became more reasonable. We will email all clubs to find out.

He also spoke about the referee shortage, and it was pointed out to him that although courses have been put on within travelling distance of Aylesbury, the people from the Aylesbury area were not informed until the courses were practically full.

Correspondence:

Berks and Bucks FA have an early warning system to highlight any teams displaying the initial signs of potentially folding. A copy will be sent to all clubs.

They have also sent the grassroots open-age football safeguarding requirements for sea-son 2024-25, which will also be sent to clubs.

An update on Cup details has also been sent, which has been forwarded to committee members.

Treasurer’s Report

Outstanding fines

St Leonards £20

There are fines for the late return of trophies. Rule 13C fine £20

Aylesbury Vale. Division 1, Potten End Division 2.

Registration Secretary’s Report:

No report

Fixtures Secretary’s Report

ADL Junior Cup

Oving Dev Vs Aylesbury Hornets. Oving unable to raise a side. Game awarded to Ayles-bury Hornets

Free date Request Chesham Youth – 4th May – declined as after 1st March

Late confirmations

20th April – Potten End, not by Wednesday

24th April Bucks Utd – failure to confirm inside timescales for midweek game

Late Teamsheets

6th April Bucks Utd – not by 6pm Monday (incomplete)

Elmhurst- not by 6pm Monday

Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

13th April Aylesbury FC – not by 6pm Monday

AW Reserves – not by 6pm Monday

20th April AW Res – not by 6pm Monday

Steeple & Ludgershall – not by 6pm Monday

Bucks Utd – not by 6pm Monday (incomplete)

24th April Potten End – over 7 days late

St Leonard’s – over 7 days late

Bucks Utd – over 7 days late

27th April Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

Bucks Utd – not by 6pm Monday

St Leonard’s – not by 6pm Monday

Late Results

27th April. Bucks Vs Potten End – late result both teams

Referees Secretary’s Report

6th April

Buckinghamshire United No club name listed & No assistant named Fine £10 rule 21A

Wingrave Late team sheet rule 21A fine £10

Potten End no referee mark fine £10 rule 23H league

13th April

Rivets Reserves late fixture confirmation fine £10 rule 20C

Stoke Mandeville no club colours or club name fine £10 rule 21A

20th April

Buckinghamshire United late fixture confirmation fine £10 rule 20C

Potten End late fixture confirmation fine £10 rule 20C

24th April

Potten End no referee mark fine £10 rule 23H league

St Leonards no referee mark fine £10 rule 23H league

Buckinghamshire United no referee mark fine £10 rule 23H league

27th April

Wendover No club assistant, no first aider, no official signature, no official name Fine £10 rule 21A

Press/Results Secretary’s Report:

The weekly write-up will be on the Bucks Herald website, with the potential for photos and videos, also on our Facebook page.

Any Other Business.

The AGM will be held on Thursday 27 June and the SGM on 8 August, both at Rivets Sports and Social Club. We would like to remind you that we need one representative per team, not per club.

If a player owes money to their club, the club needs to contact Berks and Bucks FA to arrange restitution.

The ADL are very pleased to be advised that our referee Sophie Dennington has been ap-pointed to Senior Assistant on Women’s FA Cup Final next Sunday May 12th @ Wembley Stadium. We send her many congratulations and all our best wishes on this amazing achievement.

We need to buy better quality balls for Cup Finals next year, also a card machine has been ordered.

All teams are reminded of their responsibility towards ensuring that the changing rooms they visit should be left clean and tidy, there have been several reports over the year of teams leaving changing rooms in a state. If you go to an opposition’s changing room and there are problems within it when you arrive, please contact the home team immediately to inform them.

The meeting closed at 9.15 p.m. The next meeting was arranged for 5 June 2024

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Minutes of the meeting of Aylesbury and District Football League Committee held at 7.00p.m. on Wednesday 3 April 2024 at Aylesbury Vale Dynamos Ground

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Present: P Rice, K Dunnings, M Griffin, Mrs M Harrison, A Morgan, K Saw, A Skeggs, R Small, Mrs M Stevens, M Thoday.

Apologies were received from N Sabatini

The Minutes: of the meeting of 6 March 2024 were agreed

Matters Arising:

After chasing Berks and Bucks, we have now had a reply from Jon Wood regarding his meeting with Buckinghamshire Council. We will invite him to attend our next meeting.

Correspondence:

There has been an email from Berks and Bucks FL. The football season must conclude by 31 May 2024. They are still waiting for confirmation of changes to the Standard code of Rules by the FA. The League Governance Conference will be held on Wednesday 12 June. County FA Awards are currently open for nominations

Treasurer’s Report:

Outstanding fines

Buckinghamshire United 95

Aylesbury Hornets 50

St Leonards 20

Teams participating in finals must pay all outstanding fines before their final.

Registration Secretary’s Report:

No report

Fixtures Secretary’s Report

Postponed games:

9th March. Stoke Mandeville Vs Chesham Youth. Chesham unable to raise a side, third offence. Fine £75 rule 20E

Marsworth Semi Finals 2nd March Moved to 13th April. Cup Final moved to Friday 26th April – 1930 KO

Thomas Field Shield Final – 29th March Moved to Friday 10th May 1930 KO

Missing Teamsheets

9th March St Leonard’s – not by 6pm Monday Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

16th March Aylesbury Royals – not by 6pm Monday Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

23rd March Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

30th March Tring Ath Zebras – not by 6pm Monday Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

Misc

Free Week request AWFC Res – 4th May – declined as after 1st March

ADL Senior Cup Semi Finals – 4th May Final – 11th May

ADL Junior Cup Semi Finals – 27th April Final – 4th May

Referees Secretary’s Report

All games have been covered by a qualified referee this month.

For teams in Finals – if team colours clash both teams need to change kit.

Fines

9 March Potten End late fixture confirmation fined £10 rule 21A. league

Thame Utd C incorrect teamsheet fined £10 rule 21A league

16 March Potten End no referee mark fined £10 rule 23H league

23 March Aylesbury Royals no Club official signature fined £10 rule 21A. league

Thame Utd B no competition name fined £10 rule 21A league

30 March Wendover Res no goalie colours on teamsheet fined £10 rule 21A league

Haddenham no goalie colours on teamsheet fined £10 rule 21A league

Press/Results Secretary’s Report:

The weekly write-up will be on the Bucks Herald website, with the potential for photos and videos, also on our Facebook page.

Any Other Business.

The AGM will be held on Thursday 27 June and the SGM on 8 August, both at Rivets Sports and Social Club. We would like to remind you that we need one representative per team, not per club.

Alan Webber (Bierton FC and ex-ADL Committee member) died recently, a memorial ser-vice will be held soon.

There have been several reports of cannabis being used by spectators during a match, and by players after matches. This is an illegal substance, and can affect others nearby. Man-agers need to ban its use by their players and spectators.

 

The meeting closed at 9.20 p.m. The next meeting was arranged for 1 May 2024

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Minutes of the meeting of Aylesbury and District Football League Committee held at 7.30p.m. on Wednesday 6 March 2024 at Aylesbury Vale Dynamos Ground

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Present: P Rice, K Dunnings, M Griffin, Mrs M Harrison, A. Morgan, A Skeggs, R Small,Mrs M Stevens, M Thoday.

Apologies were received from K Saw. N Sabatini

The Minutes: of the meeting of 7 February 2024 were agreed

Matters Arising:

We have had no communication from Berks and Bucks FA concerning their meeting with Buckinghamshire Council.

Correspondence:

Great Missenden queried their fine about late confirmation and late teamsheet.

Aylesbury Hornets queried their fine about not recording referee marks.

After the complaint from one team about the fine issued to another Berks and Bucks FA were consulted and we were informed that only the subject of a decision can submit an ap-peal.

We received a complaint about the language and attitude of the manager of one team, who will be contacted.

 

Treasurer’s Report:

Outstanding Fines.

Buckinghamshire United £145

Aylesbury Hornets. £40

 

Registration Secretary’s Report:

The system went down before the cut-off date of 1 March, so some players transfers need to be added.

 

Fixtures Secretary’s Report

Postponed games

17th February – Thomas Field Shield. Wendover Vs Potten End. Potten End unable to raise a side. Game awarded to Wendover. Potten End fined £50 rule 20E

2nd March – Aylesbury Vale TT Vs Chesham Youth. Chesham unable to raise a side, game awarded to Aylesbury Vale TT. (2nd offence) fine £50 rule 20E

Bucks Utd – Fixtures. 10th Feb – awarded to Oving. 17th Feb – awarded to AWFC Res

Missing Confirmations

10th February – Haddenham Utd – no confirmation of postponement. Rule 20 2B

17th February – Haddenham Utd – no confirmation of County Cup Result Rule 21 B

2nd March – Aylesbury FC – failure to confirm game by Wednesday. FC claimed it was not delivered, but did not chase Elmhurst to confirm they received it.

Missing Teamsheets

3rd Feb. Chesham Youth – incomplete by Wednesday

10th Feb. St Leonards – incomplete by Wednesday

17th Feb. St Leonards – not by 6pm Monday

2nd March. Tring Ath Zebras -not by 6pm Monday. Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

 

Haddenham have had pitch issues, if they cannot play on it this weekend they will have to find an alternative venue or face a fine.

 

Referees Secretary’s Report:

10 2.24 Potten End incorrect teamsheet (wrong player) fine £10 rule 21A

No goalkeeper colours on teamsheet fine £10 rule 21A

Wingrave Development N assistant named or club official signature fine £10 rule 21A

24.2.24 Thame Utd C. No club colours fine £10 rule 21A

2.3.24 Aylesbury FC late fixture confirmation fine £10 rule 20C

Mark has recruited a couple more referees, but is still having problems in securing enough for each game, so needs to use some newly-qualified referees on occasion.

 

Press/Results Secretary’s Report:

The weekly write up will now be on the Bucks Herald Website with the potential for Photos and videos. as well as our FB Page.

 

Any Other Business.

Buckinghamshire Council have declared some pitches out of action.

The AGM needs to be booked, hopefully the last Monday in June.

The semi-finals and finals of cups were discussed. Because of the very wet weather it may be necessary to rearrange them. Possible presenters of Cups and medals have been

approached.

Peter is dealing with the two Marsworth Cups.

Marc will liaise with Thame about the semi-finals of the other cups and Kevin will deal with the finals when he returns from holiday.

 

The meeting closed at 8.55.m. The next meeting was arranged for 3 April 2024.

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Minutes of the meeting of Aylesbury and District Football League Committee held at 7.30p.m. on Wednesday 7 February 2024 at Aylesbury Vale Dynamos Ground

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Present: P Rice, M Griffin, Mrs M Harrison, A. Morgan, N Sabatini, A Skeggs, R Small,Mrs M Stevens, M Thoday.

Apologies were received from K Dunnings, K Saw.

The Minutes: of the meeting of 3 January 2024 were agreed

Matters Arising:

A member of Berks and Bucks F A met with Buckinghamshire Council, we were not allowed to attend but sent an email protesting about the cost and condition of Council pitches.

No rule change suggestions have been received. Any club wanting a rule change needs to quote the original rule and the change(s) they would like to make.

Correspondence:

Peter has been asked to complete a form by Berks and Bucks FA about an end of season conference.

Ahmar Muktar is to be congratulated following his interview with Berks and Bucks FA, in which he said that regardless of his disability, it has not held him back.

The game between Potten End and Thame B was abandoned and as Potten End were found proven of rule E20 the game has been awarded to Thame B.

Berks and Bucks FA have an early warning system – a support tool for any teams display-ing signs of folding.

Aylesbury Hearts have a new reserve kit, red and green shirts, green shorts and green socks.

Treasurer’s Report:

Outstanding Fines. Buckinghamshire United £100

Failure to Pay Fines by the Due Date – Rule 6J Fined £10 Aylesbury Hornets, Buckinghamshire Utd, and Potten End.

Registration Secretary’s Report:

There has been very little transfer movement

The last date for registration or transfers is 1 March 2024.

Fixtures Secretary’s Report

Late Teamsheets

6th January

Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

Tring Ath Zebras – not by 6pm Monday

13th January

Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

Potten End – not by 6pm Monday

20th January

AV TT Res – not by 6pm Monday

AV TT Firsts – not by 6pm Monday

Wingrave Dev – – not by 6pm Monday

27th January

Bucks Utd – not within 7 days. £30 Fine so far.

Tring Ath Zebras – – not by 6pm Monday

Postponed games

3rd February.

Bucks Utd Vs Stoke Mandeville Res 2nd offence, unable to raise a side. Game awarded to Stoke Mandeville Res Fine £50 rule 20e

13th January

Great Missenden Vs Chesham Youth

Chesham unable to raise a side. No communication to leave on postponement. Game awarded to Great Missenden. £50 fine rule 20e

Free weeks

Wingrave Development – 17th February. Agreed

 

ADL Senior and Junior Cup

During March and April, 5 groups of 4 Teams have been divided into the above 2 Cup com-petitions. Some games will be played between League and Cup fixtures based on availa-bilty.

Senior Cup – 8 teams in the top positions over the 3 Divisions. 2 groups of 4. Top 2 into a semi final the winners into the Final.

AWFC, Wendover, Aylesbury Hearts, St Leonards,

AWFC Res, Wingrave, AVTT, Aylesbury FC

Junior Cup – 12 teams in the bottom of the top two divisions and the majority of Division 2. Three groups of four. The top 3 sides into a Semi Final, the best place 2nd placed team also reaches the Semi’s.

Bucks Utd, Rivets Res, Chesham Youth, Wendover Res, Rivets Sports, Tring Ath Zebras, AV TT Res, Wingrave Dev. Ayles Hornets, Steeple & Ludgershall, Thame C, Oving Dev

Aim is to finish by 4th May before the Bank Holiday

Referees Secretary’s Report:

06/01/24

Thame Utd C: No goalkeeper colours on teamsheet rule 21A fine £10 LEAGUE

Aylesbury Hornets: Late referee confirmation rule 20C £10 LEAGUE

Aylesbury Hornets: No referee mark rule 23H fine £10 LEAGUE

13/01/24

Wendover 1st: No assistant named rule 21A fine £10 LEAGUE

Aylesbury Hornets: No referee mark rule 23H fine £10 LEAGUE

27/01/24

Potten End: No goalkeeper colours on teamsheet rule 21A fine £10 LEAGUE

Potten End: Late referee confirmation rule 20C £10 LEAGUE

Buckinghamshire United: No referee mark rule 23H fine £10 LEAGUE

03/02/24

Steeple and Ludgershall: No assistant rule 21A fine £10

Great Missenden: Late confirmation of fixture (01/02/24) rule 20C fine £10

Great Missenden: Late team sheet rule 21A fine £10

All January’s 40 games were covered and some referees attended County Cup games.

Mark reported that he has only been in the referees secretary role a short time, but is alarmed at how badly behaved some teams are becoming. A game on 27th January has resulted in one referee deciding to take a break from the ADL due to poor behaviour of one team. The individual received a barrage of abuse. He dealt with it appropriately, but we have now lost his services due in part to this incident, and other incidents throughout the season.

On another occasion a player who was sent off attacked the opposition’s bench.

There was also a new young referee who received awful abuse and intimidation by one of the teams he was refereeing. This was reported by a spectator, and the matter has been dealt with.

The fear is that soon we will not have enough referees left, as they will leave the sport or just go elsewhere. The situation is worsening, and several clubs need to seriously improve their behaviour.

Press/Results Secretary’s Report:

The weekly report is now on the Facebook page

Any Other Business.

Can clubs please send in their suggested Rule changes, and the name of the rule they want changed.

If there is a kit clash the home team has to change, including shorts and socks.

We do not condone the use of drones flying over a pitch during the course of a game, it causes distraction to players and officials.

Peter was wished a Happy 80th Birthday for later this month.

The meeting closed at 9.15p.m. The next meeting was arranged for 6 March 2024

Marsworth Cup matches

The game between AW and AV on 25 November was abandoned, the date of the appeal was set 1 day too late, so County did not deal with it. The Committee decided to remove both clubs from the Marsworth Cup.

Wingrave Development played an ineligible player in the Marsworth reserve Cup, so the game has been awarded to Wendover reserves. Mr Morgan was asked to leave the room when the matter was discussed.

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Minutes of the meeting of Aylesbury and District Football League Committee held at 7.30p.m. on Wednesday 3 January 2024 at Aylesbury Vale Dynamos Ground

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Present: P Rice, K Dunnings, M Griffin, N Sabatini, K Saw, Mrs M Stevens, M Thoday.

Apologies were received from Mrs M Harrison, A. Morgan A Skeggs, R Small,

The Minutes: of the meeting of 6 December 2023 were agreed

Matters Arising:

There were none

Correspondence:

Stoke Mandeville have a new away kit, light grey shirts and green GK shirt.

AW v Ayles Vale Marsworth Senior Cup match held on 25 November 2023 was abandoned and the Berks and Bucks FA said it was due to the conduct of both teams. Both teams have appealed and there is to be a hearing on 9 January.

Rod Noble of Berks and Bucks FA would like to attend one of our meetings, but they have not yet resolved the problems we told them of at our September meeting.

AWFC are attempting to work with St John’s to rectify the problems with the changing rooms.

Potten End want a meeting with the committee, which will be held after their hearing with Herts FA, the date of which has not been set.

We have received a query about timing of pitch inspections, and Rule 20 was quoted:

Clubs must take all reasonable precautions to keep their Grounds in a playable condition and if the occasion arises, either club shall contact the ADFL allocated pitch inspector no later than three (3) hours before the ad-vertised kick-off time who will decide as to the fitness of the pitch

Registration Secretary’s Report:

No report.

Fixtures Secretary’s Report

Postponed games

9th December Aylesbury Royals Vs Wendover: Aylesbury Royals unable to raise a side, League cup game awarded to Wendover

Missing Teamsheets

11th November Bucks Utd never received – over 21 days fine increases to £50

2nd December Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

9th December Aylesbury Hornets – not by 6pm Monday

St Leonard’s – not by 6pm Monday

16th December Potten End and Bucks Utd – over 7 days late £30 fine

Free Weeks

20th January – Wendover Res agreed

27th January – Haddenham and Chesham Youth agreed

Referees Secretary’s Report:

Peter thanked Kevin for all his work as Referees Secretary, and welcomed Mark Griffin as the new Referees Secretary.

9 December

Aylesbury Hearts no date on teamsheet rule 21A fine £10

Aylesbury FC. No GK colours on teamsheet rule 21A fine £10

St Leonards no referee mark rule 23H fine £10

Aylesbury Hornets no referee mark rule 23H fine £10

16 December

Gt Missenden late ko, no corner flags rule 20A fine £10

Stoke Mandeville no assistant named rule 21A fine £10

Stoke Mandeville. 2 subs no shirt numbers rule 19G fine £10

Bucks Utd no referee mark rule 23H fine £10

Potten End no referee mark rule 23H fine £10

 

Bill Cleere who was the president of Wycombe Referees Association has been awarded an OBE in the New Years Honours list.

Press/Results Secretary’s Report:

The weekly report is now on the Facebook page

Any Other Business.

Can clubs please send in their suggested Rule changes, and the name of the rule they want changed.

There was discussion on the format of the Cup Finals.

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